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Titre: Problème cellule Gossen Lunasix F
Posté par: pphilippe le Juillet 13, 2022, 12:46:00
Elle ne fonctionne pas tout le temps. Je dois débrancher et rebrancher  la pile pour que la cellule fonctionne. J'ai vérifié la pile avec un voltmètre, elle est pratiquement neuve. Une idée d'où pourrait venir le problème? Merci
Titre: Re : Problème cellule Gossen Lunasix F
Posté par: yoda le Juillet 13, 2022, 13:33:34
faux contacts probablement
nettoyer les contacts dans le logement de la pile peut-être ....

ça n'a rien à voir, mais la lunasix a besoin de piles de 1,35v au mercure (introuvable depuis longtemps) il me semble.
donc si on met une pile de 1,5v , la mesure sera faussée.
l'usage de ces vieilles cellules devient compliqué... ::)
il est peut-être temps de la remplacer par une cellule plus moderne genre sekonic ?  :)
Titre: Re : Problème cellule Gossen Lunasix F
Posté par: MFloyd le Juillet 13, 2022, 15:05:56
La solution serait ici:

https://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/sbc_px14_adapter.htm

(https://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/px14_adapter.gif)

Qui permet d'utiliser des batteries oxyde argent 357 tout en abaissant le voltage à 2.7V.

Titre: Re : Re : Problème cellule Gossen Lunasix F
Posté par: pphilippe le Juillet 13, 2022, 16:53:16
Citation de: yoda le Juillet 13, 2022, 13:33:34
faux contacts probablement
nettoyer les contacts dans le logement de la pile peut-être ....

ça n'a rien à voir, mais la lunasix a besoin de piles de 1,35v au mercure (introuvable depuis longtemps) il me semble.
donc si on met une pile de 1,5v , la mesure sera faussée.
l'usage de ces vieilles cellules devient compliqué... ::)
il est peut-être temps de la remplacer par une cellule plus moderne genre sekonic ?  :)

Merci Yoda.
Maintenant elle semble refonctionner. Etonnant ce que tu me dis à propos de la pile 1,5 V, parce que la mienne est alimentée par une 9V type IEC 6 F 22.
Sur la notice que j'ai retrouvé la notice  ( https://galerie-photo.com/manuels/notice_lunasix_f.pdf ) il conseille de la retirer lorsqu'on ne s'en sert pas.
Titre: Re : Re : Problème cellule Gossen Lunasix F
Posté par: pphilippe le Juillet 13, 2022, 16:59:21
Citation de: MFloyd le Juillet 13, 2022, 15:05:56
La solution serait ici:

https://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/sbc_px14_adapter.htm

(https://www.smallbattery.company.org.uk/px14_adapter.gif)

Qui permet d'utiliser des batteries oxyde argent 357 tout en abaissant le voltage à 2.7V.

Je ne comprends pas trop ce qu'est cet adaptateur.
C'est ce type de pile qui alimente la LunasixF

Titre: Re : Problème cellule Gossen Lunasix F
Posté par: Col Hanzaplast le Juillet 13, 2022, 21:55:57
Cette Lunasix_F ressemble comme deux goutes d'eau à ma Profisix.
Ces cellules à zéro central utilisent la pile de 9V parallélépipédique.
Titre: Re : Re : Re : Problème cellule Gossen Lunasix F
Posté par: MFloyd le Juillet 13, 2022, 22:31:51
Citation de: pphilippe le Juillet 13, 2022, 16:59:21
Je ne comprends pas trop ce qu'est cet adaptateur.
C'est ce type de pile qui alimente la LunasixF

Erreur de ma part. Je me référais au Lunasix 3.

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